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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 7, 2009 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 2-13-70

Yep--someone mentioned the OOne from this, or maybe it was at the DEAD Store reading reviews? Said it was the best by far...hmmm, might have been the 2 May one? I know it was a DP of 70...Damn...

Well, anyhow, the point is that this whole sequence is great, as noted by you and another here, and you're right.

Somehow 9-19 is so ingrained in me, I pick it over any of the Fillmore DS's (you'd think from LiveDead experience it would be the one from the record, right? IE, I heard that MANY more times in my youth). I have probably listened to the 9-19 version dozens of times, and for all other DSs, except 10-12-68, I doubt I have listened to any one more than three times...Strange.

But listening to yours I was grabbed by the fact that I couldn't find myself having the same "pull" into "it" even while objectively judging it "great"...When I play the 9-19 version I get goosebumps of anticipation, just as I do for 12-29-68 for the OOne...

I would probably have to be stuck in a car or some situation where I was forced to listen to it five times and then might have the experience of really appreciating it.

Just like the H2H debate we had at Hook. Though I would never admit it to the "other side" I get goosebumps EVERYTIME I hear the Jerry solo in 8-6 and that just never happens with 4-29...Now, that one is short enough that you can play it, as I have, and get someone to go "Holy Shit! What did Jerry just do with that solo?!" but that's sorta the exception that proves the rule.

Babblin....

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jun 7, 2009 8:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 2-13-70

Hey WT I forgot to mention the DP's it's on is #4 which is a compilation of the 2-13,14 shows. This is the one I've had for the last 10 years or so, but haven't listened to it for a while. I'm pretty sure this is probably a case of, "ears bonding" to the tape version, that LIA mentioned before. Sometime soon when I get a spare 4 hours I'm going to compare the 2 sources back to back and I'll give you a report to see if it's actually better.
Funny, I assumed everyone had a copy of this tape at one time but it was probably just in my circle of friends back then that for us it was like 5-8-77.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 8, 2009 6:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 2-13-70

Funny, but I didn't have a single tape of the early era back in my serious tape days...I got one of 65 studio sessions in 1980, but that was about it.

I vaguely thought that CEnv was a song they rarely did "live", period.

Until I got TFTV and ended up here a few yrs ago, I really didn't know the Live Dead suites were missing TIFTOO, and how often they played those two sets of songs...

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jun 8, 2009 11:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 2-13-70

Yea it's kind of weird about how much I didn't know back before the online age even weirder kinda once it got popularized in the late 80's that it was sort of a requiem to know this show or another before one could get your GD cub scout badge.
I'm rambling but basically I'm wondering when this show showed up as a regular on the tape trade circuit and why was it so influential to many of us.
BTW 9-19 is 0n my list I don't think I have listened to it. I only have the 20th in my collection. I prefer to listen on lossless the first time anyway but I'm on the prowl for it now.

This post was modified by barongsong on 2009-06-08 18:00:57

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 8, 2009 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 2-13-70

Are you at Hook? PM me if you like...

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jun 8, 2009 12:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 2-13-70

I think I am actually, although I'm kind of a one trick horse when it comes to forum posting due to time. Gotta find that password now.
Whelp found the email they sent but my password was rejected for some reason.

Get this after trying the resend password option it didn't recognize my email and now after trying to re register it says I've got an invalid birthday, whatever that means, so I'm giving up on this for tonight. Will try again tomorrow I guess.

This post was modified by barongsong on 2009-06-08 19:01:43

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Poster: spacedface Date: Jun 7, 2009 9:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 2-13-70

It is odd how favorites are different. For me The Other One of 8-21-68 is better punctuated by the band than say 10-12, and has more control than 12-29, which seems to want to burst open but just can't get to swing. I think that mean I'd probably freeze up and freak instead of dancing it off.

Also, I can't see how someone could stop at year '71 -- '72-'73 are the peak years for me!

To never hear Eyes of the World or even Althea is odd to me maybe because I came later. But then I am weird -- I'm really hot on Drums & Space in 9-7-85 since I heard it on GD Hour, but never want to listen to the rest of it.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 7, 2009 11:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 2-13-70

Yeah, I would have to say that love of D & Sp puts you in a category more limited than me, don't you think? IE, early era types that stop sometime in the 70s are probably more abundant than folks that say they like Dr & Sp...I have always recalled you have said that before.

Of course, as I always point out to JOTS, I did actually get to hear a lot of Eyes and some Altheas while I was going in 74-82, and then when I listened to tapes and such from 82-95 or so.

It's only in my "reawakening" period, since 05, that I have become this early era oddball. In a way, you could say I am just going thru a phase, like we all do, but mine has become an obsession, and one that I enjoy debating with folks (ie, when I defend "why" I have such a strong pull to 68 and find so much less to draw me to 77 or 82 or whenever).

I do still sneak a listen to PegO and CrFing from 75 now and again, but the truth is, if you add up all I have now, I probably have something like 400-500 CDs, and of those, I'd bet only 25 are post 73...and of those post 71, I play them maybe once every other yr or so.

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Poster: chookie Date: Jun 7, 2009 2:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 2-13-70

Still waiting to give this Dark Star a listen. I over the past year or so have come to really enjoy it, as i usually would skip over it in the past. Since then i've found some good ones, mostly '72.

You know its crazy how some of us heads just don't listen to certain years, and we go through phases (songs, years, shows). I personally am the opposite and rarely touch anything before '71. I understand the phases and have come to believe that i will appreciate and understand certain years as i develop as a dead listener, as this has happened to me over my 7 years of dead jamming. I believe this aspect is what allows us heads to be obsessive, if you will. There is such a vast quantity of music that you can just beat yourself over the head with it for, forever!

just thought i'd kinda bring up this thought, im now gonna go check this dark star.

peace,
chook

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Poster: spacedface Date: Jun 7, 2009 3:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 2-13-70

Yeah I usually skip '70-71, until recently I heard a recommendation on a show and a jam sounded like Jerry was quoting everything from the past and future. But then I lost track of it.

I'm only around 13.00 of 9-70 DS and it's a nice change from the Playin-Truck-Other nexus I usually go for. The whole show is familiar but different, like visiting the mountains of upstate NY after living California a long time.

BTW, what's the jam after 16.00?

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 7, 2009 4:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 2-13-70

LiA or others can speak more authoritatively on these "DS jam titles" as I don't keep track, BUT I think this one, if you mean 16' of 9-19-70, is called the "feelin groovy jam".